Wednesday, 16 January 2019

My Nail And I - The Skidder On Trial!

Most of you will now know that I was acquitted at Dudley Magistrates' Court on Monday. Now I am finally able tell you the full story.....

The background of this is, of course, the politically-motivated campaign against me and efforts from both the political and paid service arms of deeply corrupt Labour Sandwell Council to destroy me and silence this blog. That West Midlands Police (WMP) have given them succour in this project is especially worrying.

On the night of 22nd May, 2018 it was the annual general meeting and "mayor-making" ceremony at Oldbury Council House. This is a showpiece occasion when many guests attend the meeting and they all go off for a taxpayer-funded nosh-up at West Brom Town Hall afterwards.

A small group of us arrived and held a demonstration about the stinking deal to develop Lion Farm Fields. One of the other demonstrators was local community activist Darryl Magher, who is often also with me at other demonstrations and Council events. We have learnt the hard way that malicious individuals try to fit us up and so we "take precautions". In my case I have at least two phones working, battery back-up etc and other things so that when there is some activity something is always "running" to protect myself and, for that matter, Darryl. A considerable amount of film and audio has been on YouTube from the day after the event. We also openly film questions to councillors and other matters that are in the public interest.

At 6pm the Council meeting started inside the building and the demo broke up. Darryl and I were the only ones who went to the pub (the Spoons directly opposite). Since we were aware that everyone rushes off after the meeting to mock the poor and hungry of Sandwell in true "socialist" style, it was not our intention to carry on the demo. Indeed, we bumped into a mutual friend in the pub and were chatting with him as everyone came streaming out of the Council House.

By the time we left the pub most guests had gone but we noted posh Londoner John Spellar MP talking to some councillors on the walkway to the car park. As he is the MP for Lion Farm Fields and had not answered correspondence I got the megaphone out and started shouting questions to him.

We also became aware of the brooding presence of the head of Sandwell's bent paid service, Jan Britton, at the entrance to the linkway together with a female employee and Mr Paul Reeves (who will shortly be the subject of a major blog all of his very own!) Reeves has issues with me and, amongst other things, trolled me and my wife via social media. Despite knowing certain facts which will be presented to you soon, Reeves has had rapid promotion under Jan Britton from the very bottom of the SMBC "ladder" to head the Council's new paramilitary force, the misnamed "Environmental Protection Officers" aka "Eling's Barmy Army".

For the first time the whole area around the linkway, walkway and car park was fenced off with orange barriers. Thus we were some distance away from Britton and from Spellar. Whilst I was speaking through the megaphone a man came over to us from outside the Waggon and Horses pub whom I now know to be Dougie. When I started directing a question at Jan Britton Dougie asked me "who's that big fat bloke?" I moved the megaphone away from my mouth and said that it was Britton and that he was an absolute c*cksucker. (It is unheard of me to use that word about him as I invariably refer to him on this blog as an arselicker or variations thereof. I usually reserve "c*cksucker(s) for the craven Wolverhampton "Express and Star").

All evening two police officers were also on duty and coming back and forth to the Council House. By the time of this comment they had gone. No security staff remonstrated with us. Mr Reeves stated on oath that no-one called the police but they just happened to come back though the video evidence shows him making a phone call immediately after the infamous statement was made......

Darryl and I came to the view that the grovelling Britton - who is completely up his own arse at these ceremonial functions - had decided to hold the two mayoral limos (which we pay for) back until we moved on. Video evidence recorded me as describing this to Darryl as a "Mexican Stand-Off". Darryl joked that we weren't going for a free meal and so could hold out longer than them but I replied that this was true only as long as our bladders held out!

As soon as two police officers arrived they went to the two security men on the car park gate and Reeves went over them to tell them the tale. As soon as the officers approached us Britton started to let the mayoral and deputy mayoral parties load into the vehicles.

All the police stuff is on video. We were told that there were complaints (plural) that I had been shouting "c*cksuckers" at members (plural) of staff and in front of children (see further below).
This was firmly denied. The officers actually confirmed on tape that whilst they had been there earlier we had been no trouble at all. They would take statements the next day. I shouted some comments at the Mayoral party and once they had gone we carried on the conversation with the police whilst packing up. We went on our way.

I thought that commonsense would prevail and I would hear nothing more about this. Next day I put a lot of the film - minus the bits with the infamous word on You Tube. At that time, of course, I was also subject to a major 346-day WMP investigation unbelievably going to Asst Chief Constable level and thought the police would ignore this nonsense. But rather than being harassed Britton saw this incident as an "opportunity" and a chance to finally "get" me. He claimed in court to have been "hurt" but quickly recovered and was soon filling his face up at WB Town Hall.

During the years of writing this blog I take a jaundiced view about all the "coincidences" that crop up around Sandwell Council. On the very day before this I had written to one of Britton's favourite employees - the one he took to The Vine despite her alleged major foul-up at work - asking her to contact me. She would have got the letter the very day that "Jan" made this police complaint.

On 14th June, 2018 I was watching a World Cup match in The British Oak, Stirchley when WMP phoned me to invite me in for a "voluntary" interview (the third of four times now they have intimidated me in this fashion). At this point, however, I have to be fair to WMP because some of what follows relate sundry failures by my then Solicitor (I had not met her before though had been represented by an agent who recommended her at the "complex crime unit" interview).

Ms X, as we shall call her, advised me to give a short statement and then do a no-comment interview particularly as she wanted to see my video evidence before it was given to the police. The interview was very short and it was understood by both sides that Ms X would submit further info to the police. If that didn't dispose of the matter I would be likely to return for a second interview.

I got straight onto the issue having an appointment with the solicitor and another with her Trainee. They saw the all-important video footage but she bizarrely advised me not to release it without it being vetted by an expensive expert! I send her a lengthy "draft" letter to the Police for her to review and send, statements from my two witnesses of fact etc. It appears now that, contrary to what I was being told, none of this was sent to the Police.

Meanwhile, as I have shown in the recent technical blog, the snivelling "leader" of bent Sandwell, Steven "Squealing" Eling and Jan Britton, Surjit Tour and others were engaged in a major campaign to criminalise me and were repeatedly contacting their puppets in WMP - including very senior officers - to that end. And Britton went to work on a personal puppet within Oldbury Police, Sgt Gary Capewell (shown here presenting an "award" to an SMBC employee for making Sandwell a better place to live "lol"!)



Britton started to apply pressure on Capewell. On 7th August, 2018 Britton wrote to me objecting to a post I wrote but bizarrely copied in Capewell. He stated, inter alia,

"It is further my view that you have made these and other comments recently on your blog and on twitter in order to damage my reputation [ROFLMAO] in connection with the ongoing investigation into a public order offence that I reported to West Midlands Police in May of this year].

It must be remembered that The Squealer and Britton had been notified at the end of July that the "complex crime unit" case had collapsed at huge public expense and so the feeble Britton was trying plan B. His puppet did not act quickly enough and so on 20th August, 2018 Britton turned the screw again writing to me but with a copy to Capewell:

"I am firmly of the view that the purpose of your message on Twitter is to damage my personal and professional reputation and standing [ROFLMAO x 2]. I am further of the view that you have made these comments in order to damage my reputation in connection with the ongoing investigation into a public order offence that I reported to West Midlands Police in May of this year."

This did the trick and three days later I was charged without a second interview (though see below). A PC had allegedly "authorised the charge" but later on when I saw the prosecution papers this person had signed them off (guess who!):


Again to be fair to WMP - and I was blissfully unaware of this at the time - Ms X had done absolutely sod all and not sent ANYTHING to WMP. Clearly it is not the responsibility of WMP to chase up a defendant's solicitor but police and solicitors have contact with each other all the time and it APPEARS (if Ms X is to be believed that the cops did not make an enquiry of her as to what was going on).

And so, at 60 years of age without even having a parking ticket I was charged with a criminal offence. And the vindictive local cops under pressure from Britton also charged me with a S4 Public Order offence which is a serious and an imprisonable offence. As I am a registered child chaperone with Worcestershire Council I had to self-report the charge and was immediately suspended from working with children until trial.

I was first time up at Dudley Mags on 11th September, 2018 and Ms X appeared on my behalf but still did not tell me that she had not sent anything off to the police. The District Judge expressed incredulity to the CPS that I had been charged with a s.4 offence but they held their ground particularly when I admitted on the court papers using "that" word but that I was in conversation with Dougie. They had to prove that I intended to alarm and distress the precious little flower, Britton. My case was listed for trial on 23rd October, 2018.

Even though I have no money I was not eligible for legal aid because of my wife's financial position. I sacked Ms X and decided to represent myself at trial. I hand delivered lots of evidence to the CPS but got no response whatsoever.

On 23rd October, 2018 I attended for trial to be told that the CPS had "made an application" on 25th September, 2018 to prevent me from cross-examining Sandwell Council witnesses! Clearly Britton was panicking about what would come out in open court (as well he might and remember matey that these rules don't apply in the civil court!) I had no say in the matter and was not even entitled to be heard. I could have state funds for a Solicitor to do the job at trial. The actual application had somehow been "lost" and this is the subject of ongoing complaint. Even though both sides had all witnesses present the case had to be adjourned and a new date was set for 14th January, 2019.

When I got home that night there were two letters on the mat from the CPS. Despite not answering anything they had POSTED two letters the day before the trial.

I continued to deliver other correspondence to the CPS but they failed to respond to anything. A solicitor was instructed for the trial.

When all this was happening an old friend appeared on the scene - the notorious Sandwell Twitter Troll, Andrew Hipkiss. He was part of the late Darren Cooper's trolling campaign against me and my wife and Jan Britton must have been well aware of this.  At one point the gullible Britton actually did a blog to his long-suffering staff publishing absurd "research" by Hipkiss about Twitter users who were against the Council. Hipkiss set up yet another Twitter account impersonating my own and then set about trying to prejudice my trial (a matter that is subject to a crime reference number). Right from the off there was only one person thick and/or malevolent enough to follow the obvious troll account:



The day before the aborted trial date in October Hipkiss but this up:



But the vicious Britton remained the sole follower:


And Britton also thought the fact of the trial meant that I couldn't comment on his dismal performance as Chief Exec. He wrote another three letters copying in Sgt Capewell accusing me of destroying his alleged "reputation".

In 2015 someone - possibly within WMP - told this clown that all he had to do to have me criminalised for "harassment" was to SAY that he felt alarmed and distressed by anything I said or wrote and so he has tried to get WMP to pursue me on that basis (of course, it is not quite as simple as he thinks). On one occasion he complained to the police when I put up a photo of a doppelganger in a pancake costume! Thus he wrote to Capewell saying that use of this photo constituted criminal harassment by me:


But he seems to have forgotten that this is not my picture but was used in 2017 on a highly critical blog about him by Sandwell's brilliant "Gooseman". Thus someone else using the image was apparently OK but the second I used it he alleged that he was alarmed and distressed and this was a "criminal offence". What a ****!

And so the trial started on Monday. Britton and four employees gave evidence. Despite all saying that the all heard the words used perfectly there were four different versions of what was said! One witness effectively confirmed my version of events.

But Britton perjured himself. To set the scene the late Smethwick Scumbag, Cooper, when he was trolling me with others - including Paul Reeves and with protection from WMP - knew that my voluntary work sometimes involved young people. Thus he/they hinted that I was a paedophile, that I had a criminal record  and that I had killed a child drink driving. It is impossible to believe that Britton was not fully aware of this given all the complaints to him and disgraced lawyer Neeraj Sharma plus the contents of this blog.

It is also common knowledge that I have a chaperone certificate. And so when the police were informed of this incident someone - my bet is Reeves - informed them that whilst I had repeatedly been shouting "c*cksuckers" at people (plural and without anyone apparently objecting lol) I had done this in front of children. Three witnesses made no mention in their police statements of there being children but Britton and Reeves "coincidentally" did:

Britton:


Reeves:

This was a total lie but then Britton actually repeated it under oath in the witness box! He falsely claimed that the group around Spellar was eight or nine people and their children. The video evidence (a lot of it in the public domain on YouTube since the day following the incident) proved that he was lying to make the "offence" look even worse!

I have to say that District Judge David Webster was very fair to me. A couple of times he summed up my evidence and at one point I added that he had "hit the nail on the head" to which - amid great amusement - he said "yes, but it's my nail!" (Hence the title of this post).

Eventually the video evidence was shown to the court and that was it. Instant acquittal but despite that the cheeky bastards tried to apply for a restraining order against me! (Bizarrely I had only said two sentences to Britton since 2014 and so why he is so scared of me is a complete mystery!)

CRY FREEDOM - CRY SKIDDER!

Once again when Dave "Call Me Dave" Thomson the CC of WMP whines about lack of resources and admits that even serious crime is not being recorded let alone investigated think about this saga and the other malicious complaints against me........

My Special Thanks To:

Shabeer Qureshi - my solicitor from Riley Hayes who stayed so cool under fire (not least from me!!!)

Dougie - a witness who I had not met until the fateful night but I would like to think is now a friend.

Darryl Magher - whilst our general politics are as far apart as could be we both recognise what is going on in Sadders and that dirt poor people were being p*ssed on by so-called "socialists". Darryl has been invaluable to the production of this blog.

Seven Labour Councillors (four of whom attended Court) who provided statements - I had better not mention their names in case Jedward p*sses his pants! Thank you all and you were brave to stand against injustice and at risk of attack from your own Party.

Neil Johnston - Midlands Correspondent of The Times - what an amazing breath of fresh air given the pathetic local media's craven grovelling to Sandwell Labour.

Eric - for constant help and support from Day One.

Mart - my old school friend who have tremendous moral support at the aborted and real trial.

Skwawkbox - another media outfit who are switched on to what Eling and Co are up to.

Supporters - great to see so many in the public gallery and thanks to the wider audience  for tremendous support. Since Neil's recent Times article I have been contacted by a number of local authority bloggers expressing solidarity - literally from Gateshead to the Isle of Wight!

Take a bow everyone and thank you!

Last but obviously not least, the one and only Linda Saunders seen here post trial in The Lamp Tavern:



HELP PLEASE

I am anxious to establish whether the GMB James's went direct from the private rented property in Haig Street, West Bromwich to their current Wednesbury address.

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Sunday, 13 January 2019

"The Most Outrageous Profanity"!

Steven "Squealing" Eling, the soon to be deposed "Leader" of bent Labour Sandwell Council is a snivelling wretch but he's got some brass neck! Remember that he met me in a Birmingham pub in 2016 after the death of The Smethwick Scumbag and asked me to use this blog to nail his enemies - Cllrs Hussain and (Ian) Jones (and others later on).

This is part of the letter I sent to the (then) General Secretary of the Labour Party as long ago as 23rd August, 2017 (though nothing has been done about it yet!):

"Following Cooper’s death an intermediary approached me and said that Councillor Steve Eling wished to meet with me as he was planning to root out the corruption of the Cooper years (which he had allegedly failed to notice himself). Thus a meeting was arranged on 29th June, 2016 at The Windsor Public House in central Birmingham. I attended with the intermediary and Cllr Eling attended with Cllr Richard Marshall.


It should be noted that prior to this meeting I had written extensively in the blog about what I considered to be “wrongdoing” by a number of Sandwell Labour Councillors including Cllrs Mahboob Hussain, Ian Jones and xxxxxxxxxxxxx. 


Cllr Eling spun me the line that he wanted to “drain the swamp” as he put it. Corrupt councillors and officials would face the consequences of their actions during the Cooper years. Cllr Marshall was to be his “enforcer” and would be in contact with me if I was prepared to “come on board” with the alleged clean-up project. For the corruption to be rooted out it was essential that Cllr Eling defeated his opponents so as to consolidate his leadership of Sandwell Labour and, thus, the Council. Accordingly, I was invited to use my energies to attack his opponents as much as possible. They would hand me ammunition to fire...................

...................... I said that I would not be silenced and would point out wrongdoing wherever it occurred in the “rotten borough”. However, I could see merit in a new administration attempting to clean-up the Council and I was prepared to give Eling the benefit of the not inconsiderable doubt. As he was merely asking me to attack Councillors that I was already attempting to expose anyway I was happy to continue to “put the boot in” and if Eling and Marshall could assist, then all well and good. Cllr Marshall would be the principal point of contact."

Eling and Marshall then started to sent me plenty of information on The Squealer's enemies via a WhatsApp account linked to a phone number used by Marshall. This brought forth, amongst many other things, the, er, "most outrageous profanity" ie they sent me this about "spunking" as they wanted me to attack four other Labour - Cllrs Ian Jones, Olwen Jones, Maria Crompton and Pete Allen as they mistakenly thought they were on holiday together (earning themselves the soubriquet "The Sp*nk Brothers" in the process):

"08/10/2016, 09:49 - Richard Marshall: Like I say hasn't got your tact! He'll (Cllr Ian Jones) be doing that (ie spunking) over MC (Cllr Maria Cromptin)in her bikini tho!!
08/10/2016, 09:51 - Jules: Steady. I have only just had breakfast!
08/10/2016, 09:52 - Richard Marshall: Well it'd be better than doing Olwen {Cllr Olwen Jones). Just"

That's pretty "outrageously profane" isn't it readers?

Those who have seen the unbelievable chain of emails where Squealer and Jan Britton try to get West Midlands Police to shaft me will have seen that the police recipient, Ch Supt Richard Baker, was bombarded with b*llocks but eventually saw the light and told Eling to stop wasting police time.

Eling has a reputation for a volcanic temper when he doesn't get his way - what a very senior SMBC employee described as him "going tonto" in the office. After being told to do one by WMP he threw his toys out of the pram and on 27th July, 2018* (the day after I was exonerated) he fired off a another vituperative email to Baker complaining about the "most outrageous profanity" (rich from a Sp*nk Brother) of this piece I wrote on this blog on the same day:

"And finally on Parks:

Cash-strapped Labour Sandwell are at in again with blowing OUR money on statues. They stole £30,000 of development funds to pay to Jim Cadman for the Three Degrees Statue and are now proposing to pay £140,000 for a statue of a Sikh soldier in Smethwick whilst cutting frontline services.

In this spirit, I am proposing a much cheaper memorial commemorating the infamous incident when a female employee in Parks Department was awarded promotion in Britton's bent paid service after shagging a very senior manager. I think this would look good in Dartmouth Park eh Gooseman?"



This story had been around for a long time but I hadn't been able to, er, stand it up! And so who better to confirm this outrageous profanity was true than the Sp*nk Brothers themselves - the Leader and a Cabinet Member! This is what this pathetic hypocrite and his lothario side-kick sent me on 14th January, 2017:

"14/01/2017, 13:57 - Jules: She must be much younger than him but told xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx who has recently left Parks was shagging xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx! She duly won promotion beyond her abilities.....
14/01/2017, 14:00 - Richard Marshall: Correct
14/01/2017, 14:01 - Richard Marshall: Late 20s
14/01/2017, 14:03 - Richard Marshall: They were both on my to go list from the off. xxxxxx went sick on the day it went public that I was Cabinet Member and never returned, literally packed his bag and walked out and she was left completely out of his [sic] depth without him there protecting her"

So this miserable pair supply the ammo and then complain to WMP when I fire it!

Incidentally, the highly controversial Monitoring Officer at bent Sandwell Council, Surjit Tour, is refusing to disclose when Jan Britton knew of the shagging and the subsequent promotion.

As a Citizen Journalist I contacted the female shagger but she has declined to comment. She now works for a firm which has contracts with Sandwell Council. Nice!

I also contacted the ageing male. He did not deny f*cking the much younger employee but wishes it to be publicly known that he was NOT on the interview panel which promoted her! Apparently he was up her but didn't up her! The promotion, in the true style of Jan Britton's bent paid service, was "all above board" "lol". Happy to pass that on to you folks.

* I was under the impression that the WMP "complex crime unit" investigation to try and close down this blog took five months but the revelations from the Eling/Baker emails show that the investigation started, at the latest, on 14th August, 2017 and I was not told it was over with no charges until 26th July, 2018 which is a stonking 346 days, The witch hunt including numerous detectives and senior officers right up to Assistant Chief Constable level. Remember that when Chief Constable, Dave Thompson, takes to the media again to whine about resources. There has to be some sort of formal enquiry about this!!!!!

Don't forget the C*cksucker Trial is on Monday 14th August - Dudley Mags at 10. Do come along to see the establishment's latest attempt to screw The Skidder!

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Saturday, 12 January 2019

Technical Blog - Eling/Baker Emails In Full

This is a technical blog for the benefit of my lawyers, the press and others who have expressed an interest.

This scandal all came about thanks to a SMBC employee informing me that Eling was corresponding with Ch Supt Richard Baker of West Midlands Police in an industrial-scale effort to criminalise me.

A Subject Access Report to West Midlands Police eventually brought forth the redacted emails below. The emails here are incomplete as there are at least two emails which WMP have NOT disclosed. I have them.

It was quite clear from the redacted emails that they are "over-redacted" ie some of the redacted sections clearly refer to me but WMP would not give further disclosure and after a course of correspondence they threatened ME that my very valid requests (as you will see below) would be considered as being "vexatious"! Bearing in mind I still face criminal prosecution for the alleged use of a single swear word one is tempted to assume that the further non-disclosure was intentional and designed to cause me harm.

On 28th December, 2018 I obtained the full, unredacted, emails from a WMP source.

Please note that Eling refers to his wife as though I am attacking a family member. Eling and his wife, Pam Pulsford/Eling threatened me with physical violence INSIDE the general election count in 2017 and said they would fit me up with the Police. Further, Pulsford/Eling is a very vocal and prominent person in Sandwell Labour Party politics although she owns a house in Derbyshire.

Even though Sandwell Council can have no possible criminal complaint against me you will see from the names of the email that they have unlawfully supported Eling's political hate campaign against me and used public funds to do it.

1    14th August, 2017

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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 14 August 2017 19:48 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; David Stevens; Richard Marshall; Paul Moore; John Edwards Subject: Complaint against Julian Saunders and Darryl Magher attempting to pervert the course of justice
Richard
I am sorry to have to write to you about this matter, but it really does need attention.
You will be aware that a standards hearing is to be held into matters relating to the conduct of Councillor Mahboob Hussain in accordance with the requirements of statute law.
I'm sure that you are also aware that many attempts have been made through the courts to delay this process and discredit what evidence may be used.
All of these attempts have failed in the courts.
It should be recognised that not only is the standards process established in statute law in its own right, but that its outcome could result in criminal offence matters being identified for further investigation.
There is now a clear attempt by some people, using social media, particularly Julian Saunders and Darryl Magher, to discredit this process claiming by spurious allegations bias in the process and by motivation including using matters now dismissed in the high court and court of appeal. All this presumably to further frustrate due process in law.
Given the High Court and Court of Appeal rulings, what has been published on social media by these individuals must now be considered attempts to pervert the course of justice and treated as the criminal matters that they are.
The publications concerned are on Facebook and Twitter and readily available to see.
I trust you will give this matter due attention.
Regards
Steve
Councillor Steve Eling Leader Sandwell MBC
2    17th August, 2017
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3   23rd August,2017

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4    19th September, 2017 - 2 emails:
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From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk] Sent: 19 September 2017 06:42 To: Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> Cc: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk> 
Subject: More Saunders hate related social media Richard Please see link. This is more hate inspired malicious social media from Julian Saunders making statements about me in relation to what would be criminal. I hope your officers inquiry into his activity is making progress. Please add this to the evidence. The link is: http://thesandwellskidder.blogspot.co.uk/ Regards Steve 
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From: Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> Date: 19/09/2017 11:10 (GMT+00:00) To: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk>, Richard Marshall <Richard_Marshall@sandwell.gov.uk>, Elaine Costigan <Elaine_Costigan@sandwell.gov.uk > Cc: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk> 
Subject: Investigation Update
 Steve, Thanks for the below. It may be worth me giving a quick update on the investigation. I accept from your perspective all these posts contain lies and inaccurate statements etc. from a legal perspective this does not necessarily make it criminal. The officers you have all spoken to have completed their fact finding and collected the material you have provided. We are primarily considering offences under the Harassment Act and Malicious Communications Act. We are seeking advice from our Force Registrar who is the expert in understanding National Crime Recording Standards. He is currently reviewing this. We need to ensure offences have been committed. I accept from your perspective this may seem black and white but associated case law involving these offence types is quite complex and detailed and I need to ensure we have complied with all of this before progressing further. The questions I have asked of the registrar are 1. Has a criminal offence occurred? 2. If so, what offence(s) have occurred? The fact finding has also provided some potential disclosure issues if offences have been committed, namely meeting Saunders in a pub and the subsequent discussions that took place. As we have an obligation under the Criminal Procedures and Investigation Act to disclose any material that may support or undermine the prosecution case this would need to be considered before any action against Saunders was taken. In my view this would fit that criteria. So if the answers to the 2 questions above are positive I may then need to have a further conversation with yourselves and CPS/legal services. I am sure you will appreciate that if we are to take positive action against Saunders I need to ensure we have considered all the above. As soon as I have a further update I will be in touch. Thank you for your patience Rich Chief Superintendent | Sandwell Neighbourhood Policing Unit | West Bromwich Police Station, Moor Street, West Bromwich B70 7AQ 
5    21st September, 2017
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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 21 September 2017 13:27 To: Richard Baker Cc: Richard Marshall; Elaine Costigan; Jan Britton 

Subject: Re: Investigation Update 

Richard 
I do not see how perpetuating malicious postings by Saunders, especially the lies referred to and the appendices which were not attached, but which we already have as part of the existing complaint, does not constitute a part of or aggravating the offence. 
The letter is itself hate mail, certainly in relation to the definitions that have been discussed in parliament. 
Regards. 
Steve 

7    16th January, 2018: 

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Begin forwarded message: From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com> Date: 16 January 2018 at 22:49:40 GMT 
To: Simon Hackett <simon_hackett@sandwell.gov.uk> Cc: Steve Eling <steve_eling@sandwell.gov.uk> 

Subject: Public Urination THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE & CONFIDENTIAL
Since my formal complaint about Street Warden xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Trade Union contacts have said that he is adamant he completed "the paperwork" and that higher grades than him stopped any action against you. 
He is very afraid of losing his job as well he should be as he appears to have lied to the 2016 conduct investigation into all this (though information has been deliberately concealed by SMBC so he should be given the very limited benefit of the doubt.) 
How can I say if this is true after years on SMBC concealment? I am sending a copy of this to Eling - even though he appears to have been involved (very late in the day) in covering up the Data Protection breach by you and since Warden xxxxxxx is still on duty tonight. 
I know you (and others) at SMBC have no conscience but I urge you to consider your position. If there has been misfeasance in public office then you must consider who picks up the tab. If the allegations are true are you prepared to see a working man potentially lose his job and livelihood? 

Bearing in mind the legal situation with regard to street wardens I am sending this email to WMP. 
Julian Saunders 

8    17th January, 2018 

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From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk] Sent: 17 January 2018 11:28

 To: Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> Cc: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk>

Subject: Re: Public Urination
 Thanks Richard Just to say though that my wife had to phone the police yesterday about further harassment and stalking of her by Saunders and was told that no incidents have been added to the file since the referral to the CPS. I am also aware that Saunders was ejected from Council premises yesterday by the Council's wardens arising from harassment of people. I understand that this incident has also been recorded as a crime. Regards. Steve

9    27th January, 2018   

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From: Steven Eling <steve_eling@yahoo.com> Sent: 27 January 2018 12:57
To: Richard Baker; Richard Youds; John Spellar
Cc: jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk

Subject: Fwd: Urgent Legal Notice - criminal intimidation by Saunders
Richards / Rt Hon John Spellar MP

I have been sent the e-mail below, which I regard as criminal intimidation with a view to pervert the course of justice. It is clearly attempting to prevent me from stating something that is fact.
I might add that I did not mention his name, only that there has been criminal harassment of my wife and I, which I have reported to police. I cannot be held responsible for other people concluding that it is him, or for him identifying himself as the culprit.
I need to be able to go about my business without facing this sort of menace.
Please accept this as a report of a criminal offence of intimidation with a view to perverting the course of justice.
John, I would hope that the CPS would be inclined to prosecute this as a meter of urgency.

 Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message: From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com>

Date: 27 January 2018 at 12:04:39 GMT To: bbcwm@bbc.co.uk Cc: Steven Eling <steve_eling@yahoo.com>

Subject: Urgent Legal Notice On 26th January, 2018 on the Alex Lester Show you broadcast an interview with Cllr Steve Eling in which he referred to unspecified persons being guilty of the criminal harassment of him and his wife via social media etc.
In the past 24 hours I have had numerous contacts from people who have drawn the inference from those comments that the "guilty" person is me.
This is libellous and I reserve my position pending further legal advice.
The BBC is hereby on notice to desist from re-broadcasting the libellous remarks.
I hope BBCWM will give me a right of reply.
It has come to my attention that Cllr Eling (who is being copied into this notice) is to appear of the Sunday Politics programme. The BBC is on notice that should he repeat his libellous allegations that legal action will commence against him AND the BBC without further recourse.

Julian Saunders

THE SANDWELL SKIDDER - COMMUNITY NEWS
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10    19th February, 2018  

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From: Steve Eling <steve_eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 5:00 pm Subject: Saunders
To: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul_moore@sandwell.gov.uk>, Alison Knight <alison_knight@sandwell.gov.uk>, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk>, Christopher Fox <c.fox@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk>

Jan

The Council is going to have to take urgent legal action on this today before people start taking action against the Council.
http://thesandwellskidder.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/lion-farm-eling-britton-take- pss.html?spref=tw&m=1
Steve

11    19th February, 2018

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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 19 February 2018 17:23 To: Jan Britton Cc: Paul Moore; Alison Knight; Richard Baker; Christopher Fox; Surjit Tour; Philip1 Tart

 Subject: Re: Saunders

Jan
This goes beyond free speech by a long way to make un-evidenced accusations of what are best described as crime. I think the Council has a duty to act.
If the Council doesn't act, members may have to come to the view that the Council is part of the problem.
Steve

12    19th February, 2018

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Sent: 19 February 2018 18:31 
To: Jan Britton Cc: Paul Moore; Alison Knight; Richard Baker; Christopher Fox; Surjit Tour; Philip1 Tart

Subject: Re: Saunders 

Jan 
I have had communication with some of the Cabinet over this. 
We are of a view that we do have to protect ourselves on this given what Saunders has written. Consequently we will not accept any further reports on Lion Farm until the Council takes action against malicious social media by Saunders and others, so that as members we can have our integrity protected in taking decisions. 
We will be discussing our position on this further when we meet on Wednesday. 
Regards 
Steve 

13    2nd March, 2018

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> > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk] > 
Sent: 02 March 2018 10:59 > To: Tara Owen; Christopher Fox; Richard Baker > Cc: Jan Britton; Philip1 Tart >

 Subject: Important document - Statement of Julian Saunders.pdf > 

All 
 You may be aware that Cllr Mahboob Hussain made a standards complaint against me relying on the publications of Saunders to substantiate his complaint. The complaint was submitted to the Council by solicitors acting on behalf of Hussain.As the material of the complaint was third party, hussain was challenged to substantiate his complaint. This was done through a signed legal statement made by Saunders and sent to the Council. > > Whilst the statement contains some un-evidenced statements of things claimed to have been said and does not contain the full set of exchanges on WhatsApp, it does set out in paragraphs 10 on page 2 and 11 on page 23 evidence that I was not engaged in the WhatsApp exchange. In fact paragraph 11 confirms what level of communication he did have with me which does not include WhatsApp. > > What he has done here is incriminate himself by his own hand by confirming that his published claims of having received WhatsApp messages from me are untrue and therefore malicious. > > I understood that the Council had previously provided his statement to the police. I am now attaching a copy of that statement as part of my evidence in my complaint against Saunders. Please find attached. > > Would you please confirm that you have received this and added it to the evidence base. > 
> Regards. > > Steve


14    2nd March, 2018

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> On 2 Mar 2018, at 11:23, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote: > > Steve, > Thanks for the below. We are already in receipt of the attached statement but thank you for forwarding in any case. You are aware that Julian Saunders will be interviewed under caution and will have this put to him and be able to provide any other information/details he may have also. The investigation team will keep you updated as things progress. >

 > Thanks > Rich >
 Chief Superintendent Richard Baker | Sandwell Neighbourhood Policing > Unit | West Bromwich Police Station, Moor Street, West Bromwich B70 > 7AQ

15    2nd March, 2018

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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 02 March 2018 11:29 
To: Richard Baker Cc: Tara Owen; Christopher Fox; Jan Britton; Philip1 Tart; Martin Hurcomb Subject: Re: Important document - Statement of Julian Saunders.pdf 

Richard 
Thank you for your prompt response. 
Steve 

16    13th March, 2018

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On 13 Mar 2018, at 11:01, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote: 

Steve, I apologise if you feel let down by WMP. I can assure you that we have taken this issue seriously. There is a Gold Group running chaired by an Assistant Chief Constable and attended by Investigations, CPS, LA Monitoring Officer and Wilkin Chapman Solicitors. We are fully aware and of the law and the guidance supplied, this is discussed at the meeting with CPS and Legal services. 
We understand that the Local Authority have sought advice from a barrister about the potential to commence a civil action against Saunders......this was briefed in at the Gold Meeting as this would be a disclosure issue for any criminal prosecution that may be carried forward against Saunders. I will ensure the investigation team are informed of your wife’s complaint so they can speak to her and assess if new/further evidence is available and then whether a statement needs to be obtained. Hopefully the above illustrates the thoroughness of the investigation. When we have any update from CPS we will update you.
 Thanks

17.    18th March, 2018

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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 18 March 2018 10:39 

To: elaine costigan Cc: Richard Baker; Jan Britton Subject: Re: Thought you should see this ! Information... 

Saunders regularly goes on about the 21. It all starts to add up if you male these connections. We know about Magher and extreme politics from what he posts. 
Steve

18.    17th April, 2018

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From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk]
 Sent: 17 April 2018 13:11 
To: Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> Cc: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk>
 Subject: Fwd: Defamation Richard Please see below an e-mail forwarded to me by Sarah James, received on her Sandwell Council staff e-mail address. The e-mail is from Saunders and makes a menacing threat to her. There is an important matter that she has already complained to the police about criminal harassment by Saunders. I understand that this complaint has been recorded under the same crime number applied to the complaints by me and others. She had not been asked to provide a formal statement yet. Saunders alleges in his e-mail of being given evidence of statements made by Sarah. She tells me that the only statements she has made are to the police. In these circumstances, it would suggest that Saunders must have a mole in the police force who is disclosing information to him. I would hope this is not true, but I would suggest warrants investigation. In view of the menacing e-mail to Sarah, I would ask that you ensure this is taken seriously as part of the proceedings against Saunders. 
Regards. Steve

From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:29:53 PM To: Sarah James Subject: Defamation Dear Ms James, I have been given evidence today of you making libellous statements against me. I reserve my position but insist that you desist from further conduct of this type forthwith. This email will be retained and referred to should you fail to heed my request. The GMB have a legal department and I respectfully suggest you take advice from them. Julian Saunders 
your trade union law firm 

19    20th May, 2018

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From: Steven Eling <steve_eling@yahoo.com> Sent: 20 May 2018 12:15 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; John Spellar
 Subject: Fwd: Disability Benefits 
Richard 
See below. He is now harassing me about my disability. This now constitutes hate crime. 
Please treat accordingly. 
Steve 
Sent from my iPhone 

Begin forwarded message: From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com> Date: 20 May 2018 at 11:08:24 BST To: Steve Eling <steve_eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Subject: Disability Benefits THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION 
Some of your Labour colleagues have informed me that at certain times you have been in receipt of disability benefits. 
Given your involvement in the CTB and other fiascos it is a matter of public interest whether you, yourself, claimed benefits. 
For the benefit of Skidder readers please confirm whether you have ever claimed benefits whilst serving as a Sandwell Council and, if so, what you claimed and for what period or periods. 
Julian Saunders 
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20.    31st May, 2018

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From: Steven Eling <steve_eling@yahoo.com> Sent: 31 May 2018 14:04 To: Richard Baker Cc: Paul Moore; Alison Knight; Jan Britton Subject: More malicious criminal harassment from Saunders 
See this: 
http://thesandwellskidder.blogspot.com/2018/05/homes-to-be-destroyed-in-bent-lion- farm.html?spref=tw&m=1 
I believe the references to a number of people's homes are not true and would therefore be designed to create unwarranted public alarm that requires immediate action. 
Steve 

21.    15th June, 2018

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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 15 June 2018 18:13 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton

 Subject: Fwd: Notice of Intent to Report Abuse 

Richard 
I think this below served to Council members warrants immediate arrest and charges laid. Failure to do that in these circumstances will bring WMP into contempt. 
If you do not action this, it will have to become a matter for the Home Secretary. 
Regards. 

Steve Begin forwarded message: From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com> Date: 15 June 2018 at 17:57:02 BST To: Steve Eling <steve_eling@sandwell.gov.uk>, <ann_jaron@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <bob_piper@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Kerrie_Carmichael@sandwell.gov.uk>, Danny Millard <danny_millard@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Elaine_Giles@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <carol_goult@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <rajbir_singh@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <elizabeth_giles@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <sue_phillips@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Liam Preece <liam_preece@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Ann_Shackleton@sandwell.gov.uk>, julie_webb@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Caroline_White@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <joy_edis@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Simon Hackett <simon_hackett@sandwell.gov.uk>, <geoffrey_lewis@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, shirley_hosell@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <steve_melia@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, hris_worsey@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <peter_allen@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Joanne Hadley <joanne_hadley@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <ann_jarvis@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <john_edwards@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, iqbal_singhpadda@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <jackie_taylor@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, pat_davies@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Paul Moore <paul_moore@sandwell.gov.uk>, <paul_sandars@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <sharon_davies@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <yvonne_davies@sandwell.gov.uk>, <bill_gavan@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <keith_allcock@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <david_hosell@sandwell.gov.uk>, <joyce_underhill@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <sue_crumpton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <trevor_crumpton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Steve_Trow@sandwell.gov.uk>, <susan_downing@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Suzanne_hartwell@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mushtaq_hussain@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, 
<bill_cherrington@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <jenny_chidley@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <stephen_jones@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <susan_eaves@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <chris_tranter@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <wasim_ali@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <keith_davies@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <linda_horton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <roger_horton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mohammad_rouf@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Farut_Shaeen@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, zahoor_ahmed@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <samiya_akhter@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <babu_singhbawa@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mohammedyaseen_hussain@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Ian Jones <ian_jones@sandwell.gov.uk>, <syeda_khatun@sandwell.gov.uk>, <lorraine_ashman@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <maria_crompton@sandwell.gov.uk>, Sandra Hevican <sandra_hevican@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <elaine_costigan@sandwell.gov.uk>, <luke_giles@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <peter_hughes@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <pam_hughes@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <olwen_jones@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <bob_lloyd@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <bawa_singhdhallu@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Laura_Hickey@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mohinder_singhtagger@cllr.sandwell.org.uk> 

Subject: Notice of Intent to Report Abuse 

Dear All, 
THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION 

Eid Mubarak to those celebrating. 

Over the years I have known most of you, I have been insulted and abused on occasions too numerous to mention. The "F" word has been used liberally and sometimes the "C" word. I have had councillors literally screaming abuse in my face. I have been threatened with physical violence. On an infamous occasion one or more councillors stole two eggs from SMBC and threw them at myself and other peaceful protesters. 

It seems that hitherto I have had a thicker skin than your Chief Executive [sic] and that the alleged use of a single swear word is now classed as a criminal offence! I hereby put you on notice that I am no longer going to tolerate this sort of abuse. I have rights too. Please be aware that from today all abuse and threats WILL be reported to West Midlands Police forthwith. You have been warned and I shall produce this notice to WMP on each and every occasion it is required. 
Jules 
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22.    26th June, 2018

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Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad Begin forwarded message:

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 9:44 am, Vincent Alexandervich wrote: THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION 

I am sending this to your personal email account as this is ostensibly a private matter (though see further below.) 
You will, no doubt, have seen this Skwakbox article at the weekend: 
https://skwawkbox.org/2018/06/24/senior-sandwell-council-figures-aggressive- outburst-brings-funeral-goer-to-tears/ 
A number of your Labour colleagues have Identified you as the vicious aggressor and Melanie Dudley as your victim. 
I propose to publish that via The Skidder after 3pm today but invite you to comment first. 
Please note that I reserve the right to draw this to the attention of SMBC as I understand that Ms Dudley has an ongoing Standards Complaint and this incident, if true, could be seen as intimidation of a key witness and an attempt to pervert the Standards process. 
Julian Saunders 
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23.   12th July, 2018 - PLEASE NOTE THAT ELING ALSO TRIES TO NOBBLE THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER HERE. THERE IS AN OUTSTANDING SUBJECT ACCESS REQUEST AGAINST THE ICO.


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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 12 July 2018 16:49
 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; Surjit Tour; Philip1 Tart; casework@ico.org.uk 

Subject: More Saunders malicious activity West Midlands Police and ICO 

Richard 
This e-mail relates to a FOI request by Julian Saunders, which he states he has now referred to the ICO. It contains statements that are relevant the the police investigation of Saunders for numerous alleged offences. 
Please see this link. It shows further that Saunders is perpetuating the lie that I had WhatsApp communications with him, even though he has signed a legal statement saying that I had not, and that he is aware that he is under police investigation for malicious communications and harassment. 
This is the link to matters relating to a FOI request, which he states he has now referred to the Information Commissioner: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/usemis_use_of_internal_audit_dep#outgoing-785915 
I consider his continued lies and misrepresentation of me, now to the Information Commissioner as a further factor in the criminal behaviour towards me. 
I am copying this e-mail to the Information Commissioner. 
For the information of the Information Commissioner, this e-mail is sent to Chief Superintendent Richard Baker, West Midlands Police in relation to a criminal investigation into the activity of Julian Saunders. The crime number for this case is 20SW/240515F//17. 
Regards. 
Steve 
Councillor Steve Eling Leader Sandwell MBC 

[On 26th July, 2018 West Midlands Police informed me that no charges would be brought against me and this became public knowledge on that date. This did not stop Eling and Sandwell Council in their hate campaign against me.]

24.    27th July, 2018

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Subject: Complaint about the most outrageous profanity by Saunders
 Richard It is the same blog as my previous complaint: http://thesandwellskidder.blogspot.com/2018/07/jan-britton-promotes- leaker.html?m=1 The final section and photograph is so offensive and disgusting to any reasonably minded person that it has to be a criminal matter. WMP have to take some responsibility for this man thinking that he can behave in this matter. Steve

25.    28th July, 2018 - The worm finally turns....

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On 28 Jul 2018, at 14:57, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote: 

Steve I must strongly refute the assertion that West Midlands Police ‘must take some responsibility’ for blogs and tweets posted by Saunders or that we are ‘fuelling’ said posts as you have stated in recent emails. West Midlands Police have invested significant resource into investigating any possible criminal offences committed by Saunders. We have utilised officers from our Complex Crime Team who are experienced investigators. These officers are at the same time investigating very serious criminality involving significant threat and risk to the communities of Sandwell. The resources, time and cost the investigation into Saunders has taken is more than proportionate in my view. All evidence forwarded by you and your colleagues has been recorded and has formed part of the investigation. The investigation file was submitted to the Crown Prosecution Service who are the agency responsible for assessing if the criminal threshold has been met for a prosecution. The response provided by them is very clear. The threshold has not been met and therefore no prosecution is going to take place. They clearly outline their rationale for this. I am sure you have been made aware of the recent Gold Group chaired by the Assistant Chief Constable but if not the investigation into Saunders is now concluded. Unless obvious identifiable criminal thresholds are met we will not continue to record blogs/tweets that have similar content to what we have already assessed. I appreciate this will cause you some frustration however we cannot prosecute a person if the criminal threshold has not been met. You will have seen recently the well documented demand that policing is currently experiencing. Local resources are at a premium and I prioritise the investigation of the highest threat and risk crimes posed to victims and communities in Sandwell and the wider West Midlands area. Although posts from Saunders may contain false and upsetting information he does not pose any wider threat to you or other councillors. I would strongly advise that if you wish to pursue a legal challenge against Saunders that you consider a civil action. I understand form the Gold Group this is an option that is being considered. You are of course entitled to the review of the decision made by the CPS as outlined in their letter. I am more than happy to meet you and discuss these points in person. To be clear West Midlands Police accept no responsibility for posts from Julian Saunders and we will not investigate further posts unless an obvious criminal threshold is met.
 Richard 
Chief Superintendent | Sandwell Neighbourhood Policing Unit | West Bromwich Police Station, Moor Street, West Bromwich B70 7AQ


26.    28th July, 2018 

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 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; Surjit Tour 
Subject: Re: Complaint about the most outrageous profanity by Saunders
 Richard Saunders claims that WMP has provided him him statements etc that he is now using to harass me. That is either true or false. If it is true then WMP have some responsibility; if it is false it is new criminal harassment. Either way there is a case to be answered. Will you either confirm or deny what Saunders has published and provide me with copies of anything about me disclosed to Saunders by WMP. Regards. Steve

27.    30th July, 2018 - Police finally give the advice they should have given on day one!

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On 30 Jul 2018, at 10:16, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote

: Steve, WMP have not provided statements to JS. His solicitor was provided with a disclosure document outlining the nature of the allegations made by you and others which he is fully entitled to and something everything every suspect in custody would get. If you wish to get access to documentation that contains details that were disclosed to JS you will need to do this via the appropriate channels. Such documentation will have other personal details on and will require assessment as to the legal justification for releasing such documentation and if this was met it would need to be redacted accordingly. Details of how you can do this can be found at www.wmnow.co.uk The fact that you will say information being posted by JS is inaccurate or untrue does not constitute a criminal offence. No offence will therefore be recorded. I will repeat that if you want to pursue this legally you now consider civil legislation. 

Chief Superintendent Richard Baker | Sandwell Neighbourhood Policing Unit | West Bromwich Police Station, Moor Street, West Bromwich B70 7AQ ?

28.    30th July, 2018

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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 30 July 2018 10:29 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; Surjit Tour 
Subject: Re: Complaint about the most outrageous profanity by Saunders 
Richard 
Thank you for confirming that. It therefore demonstrates that what is being published by Saunders is false and misleading. It is that the publications are repeat and malicious that I contend makes them criminal. That will be argued out elsewhere. 
Regards. 
Steve 

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