From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk] Sent: 17 January 2018 11:28
To: Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> Cc: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk>
Thanks Richard Just to say though that my wife had to phone the police yesterday about further harassment and stalking of her by Saunders and was told that no incidents have been added to the file since the referral to the CPS. I am also aware that Saunders was ejected from Council premises yesterday by the Council's wardens arising from harassment of people. I understand that this incident has also been recorded as a crime. Regards. Steve
I have been sent the e-mail below, which I regard as criminal intimidation with a view to pervert the course of justice. It is clearly attempting to prevent me from stating something that is fact.
I might add that I did not mention his name, only that there has been criminal harassment of my wife and I, which I have reported to police. I cannot be held responsible for other people concluding that it is him, or for him identifying himself as the culprit.
I need to be able to go about my business without facing this sort of menace.
Please accept this as a report of a criminal offence of intimidation with a view to perverting the course of justice.
John, I would hope that the CPS would be inclined to prosecute this as a meter of urgency.
Begin forwarded message: From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com>
Date: 27 January 2018 at 12:04:39 GMT To: bbcwm@bbc.co.uk Cc: Steven Eling <steve_eling@yahoo.com>
Subject: Urgent Legal Notice On 26th January, 2018 on the Alex Lester Show you broadcast an interview with Cllr Steve Eling in which he referred to unspecified persons being guilty of the criminal harassment of him and his wife via social media etc.
In the past 24 hours I have had numerous contacts from people who have drawn the inference from those comments that the "guilty" person is me.
This is libellous and I reserve my position pending further legal advice.
The BBC is hereby on notice to desist from re-broadcasting the libellous remarks.
I hope BBCWM will give me a right of reply.
It has come to my attention that Cllr Eling (who is being copied into this notice) is to appear of the Sunday Politics programme. The BBC is on notice that should he repeat his libellous allegations that legal action will commence against him AND the BBC without further recourse.
From: Steve Eling <steve_eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 5:00 pm Subject: Saunders
Cc: Paul Moore <paul_moore@sandwell.gov.uk>, Alison Knight <alison_knight@sandwell.gov.uk>, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk>, Christopher Fox <c.fox@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk>
The Council is going to have to take urgent legal action on this today before people start taking action against the Council.
http://thesandwellskidder.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/lion-farm-eling-britton-take- pss.html?spref=tw&m=1
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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 19 February 2018 17:23 To: Jan Britton Cc: Paul Moore; Alison Knight; Richard Baker; Christopher Fox; Surjit Tour; Philip1 Tart
Subject: Re: Saunders
Jan
This goes beyond free speech by a long way to make un-evidenced accusations of what are best described as crime. I think the Council has a duty to act.
If the Council doesn't act, members may have to come to the view that the Council is part of the problem.
Steve
12 19th February, 2018
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Sent: 19 February 2018 18:31
To: Jan Britton Cc: Paul Moore; Alison Knight; Richard Baker; Christopher Fox; Surjit Tour; Philip1 Tart
Subject: Re: Saunders
Jan
I have had communication with some of the Cabinet over this.
We are of a view that we do have to protect ourselves on this given what Saunders has written. Consequently we will not accept any further reports on Lion Farm until the Council takes action against malicious social media by Saunders and others, so that as members we can have our integrity protected in taking decisions.
We will be discussing our position on this further when we meet on Wednesday.
Regards
Steve
13 2nd March, 2018
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> > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk] >
Sent: 02 March 2018 10:59 > To: Tara Owen; Christopher Fox; Richard Baker > Cc: Jan Britton; Philip1 Tart >
Subject: Important document - Statement of Julian Saunders.pdf >
All
You may be aware that Cllr Mahboob Hussain made a standards complaint against me relying on the publications of Saunders to substantiate his complaint. The complaint was submitted to the Council by solicitors acting on behalf of Hussain.As the material of the complaint was third party, hussain was challenged to substantiate his complaint. This was done through a signed legal statement made by Saunders and sent to the Council. > > Whilst the statement contains some un-evidenced statements of things claimed to have been said and does not contain the full set of exchanges on WhatsApp, it does set out in paragraphs 10 on page 2 and 11 on page 23 evidence that I was not engaged in the WhatsApp exchange. In fact paragraph 11 confirms what level of communication he did have with me which does not include WhatsApp. > > What he has done here is incriminate himself by his own hand by confirming that his published claims of having received WhatsApp messages from me are untrue and therefore malicious. > > I understood that the Council had previously provided his statement to the police. I am now attaching a copy of that statement as part of my evidence in my complaint against Saunders. Please find attached. > > Would you please confirm that you have received this and added it to the evidence base. >
> Regards. > > Steve
14 2nd March, 2018
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> On 2 Mar 2018, at 11:23, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote: > > Steve, > Thanks for the below. We are already in receipt of the attached statement but thank you for forwarding in any case. You are aware that Julian Saunders will be interviewed under caution and will have this put to him and be able to provide any other information/details he may have also. The investigation team will keep you updated as things progress. >
> Thanks > Rich >
Chief Superintendent Richard Baker | Sandwell Neighbourhood Policing > Unit | West Bromwich Police Station, Moor Street, West Bromwich B70 > 7AQ
15 2nd March, 2018
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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 02 March 2018 11:29
To: Richard Baker Cc: Tara Owen; Christopher Fox; Jan Britton; Philip1 Tart; Martin Hurcomb Subject: Re: Important document - Statement of Julian Saunders.pdf
Richard
Thank you for your prompt response.
Steve
16 13th March, 2018
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On 13 Mar 2018, at 11:01, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote:
Steve, I apologise if you feel let down by WMP. I can assure you that we have taken this issue seriously. There is a Gold Group running chaired by an Assistant Chief Constable and attended by Investigations, CPS, LA Monitoring Officer and Wilkin Chapman Solicitors. We are fully aware and of the law and the guidance supplied, this is discussed at the meeting with CPS and Legal services.
We understand that the Local Authority have sought advice from a barrister about the potential to commence a civil action against Saunders......this was briefed in at the Gold Meeting as this would be a disclosure issue for any criminal prosecution that may be carried forward against Saunders. I will ensure the investigation team are informed of your wife’s complaint so they can speak to her and assess if new/further evidence is available and then whether a statement needs to be obtained. Hopefully the above illustrates the thoroughness of the investigation. When we have any update from CPS we will update you.
Thanks
17. 18th March, 2018
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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 18 March 2018 10:39
To: elaine costigan Cc: Richard Baker; Jan Britton Subject: Re: Thought you should see this ! Information...
Saunders regularly goes on about the 21. It all starts to add up if you male these connections. We know about Magher and extreme politics from what he posts.
Steve
18. 17th April, 2018
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From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk]
Sent: 17 April 2018 13:11
To: Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> Cc: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk>
Subject: Fwd: Defamation Richard Please see below an e-mail forwarded to me by Sarah James, received on her Sandwell Council staff e-mail address. The e-mail is from Saunders and makes a menacing threat to her. There is an important matter that she has already complained to the police about criminal harassment by Saunders. I understand that this complaint has been recorded under the same crime number applied to the complaints by me and others. She had not been asked to provide a formal statement yet. Saunders alleges in his e-mail of being given evidence of statements made by Sarah. She tells me that the only statements she has made are to the police. In these circumstances, it would suggest that Saunders must have a mole in the police force who is disclosing information to him. I would hope this is not true, but I would suggest warrants investigation. In view of the menacing e-mail to Sarah, I would ask that you ensure this is taken seriously as part of the proceedings against Saunders.
Regards. Steve
From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:29:53 PM To: Sarah James Subject: Defamation Dear Ms James, I have been given evidence today of you making libellous statements against me. I reserve my position but insist that you desist from further conduct of this type forthwith. This email will be retained and referred to should you fail to heed my request. The GMB have a legal department and I respectfully suggest you take advice from them. Julian Saunders
your trade union law firm
19 20th May, 2018
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From: Steven Eling <steve_eling@yahoo.com> Sent: 20 May 2018 12:15 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; John Spellar
Subject: Fwd: Disability Benefits
Richard
See below. He is now harassing me about my disability. This now constitutes hate crime.
Please treat accordingly.
Steve
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message: From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com> Date: 20 May 2018 at 11:08:24 BST To: Steve Eling <steve_eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Subject: Disability Benefits THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION
Some of your Labour colleagues have informed me that at certain times you have been in receipt of disability benefits.
Given your involvement in the CTB and other fiascos it is a matter of public interest whether you, yourself, claimed benefits.
For the benefit of Skidder readers please confirm whether you have ever claimed benefits whilst serving as a Sandwell Council and, if so, what you claimed and for what period or periods.
Julian Saunders
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20. 31st May, 2018
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From: Steven Eling <steve_eling@yahoo.com> Sent: 31 May 2018 14:04 To: Richard Baker Cc: Paul Moore; Alison Knight; Jan Britton Subject: More malicious criminal harassment from Saunders
See this:
http://thesandwellskidder.blogspot.com/2018/05/homes-to-be-destroyed-in-bent-lion- farm.html?spref=tw&m=1
I believe the references to a number of people's homes are not true and would therefore be designed to create unwarranted public alarm that requires immediate action.
Steve
21. 15th June, 2018
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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 15 June 2018 18:13 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton
Subject: Fwd: Notice of Intent to Report Abuse
Richard
I think this below served to Council members warrants immediate arrest and charges laid. Failure to do that in these circumstances will bring WMP into contempt.
If you do not action this, it will have to become a matter for the Home Secretary.
Regards.
Steve Begin forwarded message: From: Vincent Alexandervich <thesandwellskidder@gmail.com> Date: 15 June 2018 at 17:57:02 BST To: Steve Eling <steve_eling@sandwell.gov.uk>, <ann_jaron@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <bob_piper@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Kerrie_Carmichael@sandwell.gov.uk>, Danny Millard <danny_millard@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Elaine_Giles@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <carol_goult@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <rajbir_singh@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <elizabeth_giles@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <sue_phillips@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Liam Preece <liam_preece@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Ann_Shackleton@sandwell.gov.uk>, julie_webb@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Caroline_White@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <joy_edis@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Simon Hackett <simon_hackett@sandwell.gov.uk>, <geoffrey_lewis@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, shirley_hosell@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <steve_melia@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, hris_worsey@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <peter_allen@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Joanne Hadley <joanne_hadley@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <ann_jarvis@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <john_edwards@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, iqbal_singhpadda@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <jackie_taylor@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, pat_davies@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Paul Moore <paul_moore@sandwell.gov.uk>, <paul_sandars@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <sharon_davies@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <yvonne_davies@sandwell.gov.uk>, <bill_gavan@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <keith_allcock@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <david_hosell@sandwell.gov.uk>, <joyce_underhill@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <sue_crumpton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <trevor_crumpton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Steve_Trow@sandwell.gov.uk>, <susan_downing@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Suzanne_hartwell@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mushtaq_hussain@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>,
<bill_cherrington@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <jenny_chidley@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <stephen_jones@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <susan_eaves@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <chris_tranter@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <wasim_ali@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <keith_davies@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <linda_horton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <roger_horton@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mohammad_rouf@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Farut_Shaeen@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, zahoor_ahmed@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <samiya_akhter@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <babu_singhbawa@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mohammedyaseen_hussain@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, Ian Jones <ian_jones@sandwell.gov.uk>, <syeda_khatun@sandwell.gov.uk>, <lorraine_ashman@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <maria_crompton@sandwell.gov.uk>, Sandra Hevican <sandra_hevican@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <elaine_costigan@sandwell.gov.uk>, <luke_giles@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <peter_hughes@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <pam_hughes@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <olwen_jones@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <bob_lloyd@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <bawa_singhdhallu@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <Laura_Hickey@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>, <mohinder_singhtagger@cllr.sandwell.org.uk>
Subject: Notice of Intent to Report Abuse
Dear All,
THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION
Eid Mubarak to those celebrating.
Over the years I have known most of you, I have been insulted and abused on occasions too numerous to mention. The "F" word has been used liberally and sometimes the "C" word. I have had councillors literally screaming abuse in my face. I have been threatened with physical violence. On an infamous occasion one or more councillors stole two eggs from SMBC and threw them at myself and other peaceful protesters.
It seems that hitherto I have had a thicker skin than your Chief Executive [sic] and that the alleged use of a single swear word is now classed as a criminal offence! I hereby put you on notice that I am no longer going to tolerate this sort of abuse. I have rights too. Please be aware that from today all abuse and threats WILL be reported to West Midlands Police forthwith. You have been warned and I shall produce this notice to WMP on each and every occasion it is required.
Jules
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22. 26th June, 2018
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Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad Begin forwarded message:
On Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 9:44 am, Vincent Alexandervich wrote: THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION
I am sending this to your personal email account as this is ostensibly a private matter (though see further below.)
You will, no doubt, have seen this Skwakbox article at the weekend:
https://skwawkbox.org/2018/06/24/senior-sandwell-council-figures-aggressive- outburst-brings-funeral-goer-to-tears/
A number of your Labour colleagues have Identified you as the vicious aggressor and Melanie Dudley as your victim.
I propose to publish that via The Skidder after 3pm today but invite you to comment first.
Please note that I reserve the right to draw this to the attention of SMBC as I understand that Ms Dudley has an ongoing Standards Complaint and this incident, if true, could be seen as intimidation of a key witness and an attempt to pervert the Standards process.
Julian Saunders
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23. 12th July, 2018 - PLEASE NOTE THAT ELING ALSO TRIES TO NOBBLE THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER HERE. THERE IS AN OUTSTANDING SUBJECT ACCESS REQUEST AGAINST THE ICO.
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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 12 July 2018 16:49
To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; Surjit Tour; Philip1 Tart; casework@ico.org.uk
Subject: More Saunders malicious activity West Midlands Police and ICO
Richard
This e-mail relates to a FOI request by Julian Saunders, which he states he has now referred to the ICO. It contains statements that are relevant the the police investigation of Saunders for numerous alleged offences.
Please see this link. It shows further that Saunders is perpetuating the lie that I had WhatsApp communications with him, even though he has signed a legal statement saying that I had not, and that he is aware that he is under police investigation for malicious communications and harassment.
This is the link to matters relating to a FOI request, which he states he has now referred to the Information Commissioner: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/usemis_use_of_internal_audit_dep#outgoing-785915
I consider his continued lies and misrepresentation of me, now to the Information Commissioner as a further factor in the criminal behaviour towards me.
I am copying this e-mail to the Information Commissioner.
For the information of the Information Commissioner, this e-mail is sent to Chief Superintendent Richard Baker, West Midlands Police in relation to a criminal investigation into the activity of Julian Saunders. The crime number for this case is 20SW/240515F//17.
Regards.
Steve
Councillor Steve Eling Leader Sandwell MBC
[On 26th July, 2018 West Midlands Police informed me that no charges would be brought against me and this became public knowledge on that date. This did not stop Eling and Sandwell Council in their hate campaign against me.]
24. 27th July, 2018
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From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk] Sent: 27 July 2018 14:06
To: Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> Cc: Jan Britton <jan_britton@sandwell.gov.uk>; Surjit Tour <Surjit_Tour@sandwell.gov.uk>
Subject: Complaint about the most outrageous profanity by Saunders
Richard It is the same blog as my previous complaint: http://thesandwellskidder.blogspot.com/2018/07/jan-britton-promotes- leaker.html?m=1 The final section and photograph is so offensive and disgusting to any reasonably minded person that it has to be a criminal matter. WMP have to take some responsibility for this man thinking that he can behave in this matter. Steve
25. 28th July, 2018 - The worm finally turns....
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On 28 Jul 2018, at 14:57, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote:
Steve I must strongly refute the assertion that West Midlands Police ‘must take some responsibility’ for blogs and tweets posted by Saunders or that we are ‘fuelling’ said posts as you have stated in recent emails. West Midlands Police have invested significant resource into investigating any possible criminal offences committed by Saunders. We have utilised officers from our Complex Crime Team who are experienced investigators. These officers are at the same time investigating very serious criminality involving significant threat and risk to the communities of Sandwell. The resources, time and cost the investigation into Saunders has taken is more than proportionate in my view. All evidence forwarded by you and your colleagues has been recorded and has formed part of the investigation. The investigation file was submitted to the Crown Prosecution Service who are the agency responsible for assessing if the criminal threshold has been met for a prosecution. The response provided by them is very clear. The threshold has not been met and therefore no prosecution is going to take place. They clearly outline their rationale for this. I am sure you have been made aware of the recent Gold Group chaired by the Assistant Chief Constable but if not the investigation into Saunders is now concluded. Unless obvious identifiable criminal thresholds are met we will not continue to record blogs/tweets that have similar content to what we have already assessed. I appreciate this will cause you some frustration however we cannot prosecute a person if the criminal threshold has not been met. You will have seen recently the well documented demand that policing is currently experiencing. Local resources are at a premium and I prioritise the investigation of the highest threat and risk crimes posed to victims and communities in Sandwell and the wider West Midlands area. Although posts from Saunders may contain false and upsetting information he does not pose any wider threat to you or other councillors. I would strongly advise that if you wish to pursue a legal challenge against Saunders that you consider a civil action. I understand form the Gold Group this is an option that is being considered. You are of course entitled to the review of the decision made by the CPS as outlined in their letter. I am more than happy to meet you and discuss these points in person. To be clear West Midlands Police accept no responsibility for posts from Julian Saunders and we will not investigate further posts unless an obvious criminal threshold is met.
Richard
Chief Superintendent | Sandwell Neighbourhood Policing Unit | West Bromwich Police Station, Moor Street, West Bromwich B70 7AQ
26. 28th July, 2018
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From: Steve Eling [mailto:Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk] Sent: 28 July 2018 16:03
To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; Surjit Tour
Subject: Re: Complaint about the most outrageous profanity by Saunders
Richard Saunders claims that WMP has provided him him statements etc that he is now using to harass me. That is either true or false. If it is true then WMP have some responsibility; if it is false it is new criminal harassment. Either way there is a case to be answered. Will you either confirm or deny what Saunders has published and provide me with copies of anything about me disclosed to Saunders by WMP. Regards. Steve
27. 30th July, 2018 - Police finally give the advice they should have given on day one!
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On 30 Jul 2018, at 10:16, Richard Baker <r.baker@west-midlands.pnn.police.uk> wrote
: Steve, WMP have not provided statements to JS. His solicitor was provided with a disclosure document outlining the nature of the allegations made by you and others which he is fully entitled to and something everything every suspect in custody would get. If you wish to get access to documentation that contains details that were disclosed to JS you will need to do this via the appropriate channels. Such documentation will have other personal details on and will require assessment as to the legal justification for releasing such documentation and if this was met it would need to be redacted accordingly. Details of how you can do this can be found at www.wmnow.co.uk The fact that you will say information being posted by JS is inaccurate or untrue does not constitute a criminal offence. No offence will therefore be recorded. I will repeat that if you want to pursue this legally you now consider civil legislation.
Chief Superintendent Richard Baker | Sandwell Neighbourhood Policing Unit | West Bromwich Police Station, Moor Street, West Bromwich B70 7AQ ?
28. 30th July, 2018
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From: Steve Eling <Steve_Eling@sandwell.gov.uk> Sent: 30 July 2018 10:29 To: Richard Baker Cc: Jan Britton; Surjit Tour
Subject: Re: Complaint about the most outrageous profanity by Saunders
Richard
Thank you for confirming that. It therefore demonstrates that what is being published by Saunders is false and misleading. It is that the publications are repeat and malicious that I contend makes them criminal. That will be argued out elsewhere.
Regards.
Steve
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